This research project consists of a
thorough analysis of a social interaction between Ellen DeGeneres and Miranda
Kerr on the Ellen DeGeneres show. The Ellen DeGeneres show, often shortened to
Ellen, is an American television talk show hosted by comedian/ actress Ellen
DeGeneres. The program combines comedy, celebrity and musical guests and human-interest
stories, drawing millions of viewers each episode. The first five minutes of
the interview have been selected for a close reading. The aim of the project is
to discover why the social actors (Ellen DeGeneres and Miranda Kerr) ‘come to
know, and know in common, what they are doing and the circumstances in which
they are doing it’ (Heritage, 1984:76). The analysis will also look at how Ellen
deploys humour on the show, since she is a comedian. A range of sociological
approaches can be drawn on from the exchange, including: codes of conduct,
recipe knowledge, documentary method of interpretation, performance, facework
and deference and demeanor.
The project analysis will first look at how
the social actors in the episode came to know what they were doing. This means
analysing the details that suggested they were having a social interaction. The
study of ‘the details of social interactions in everyday life (micro-
sociology) is treated of major importance to many sociologists, as it is at
this level of human interaction and interpersonal relationships that the
fabrication of the self arises’ (Elliot, 2008:22-23). The way an individual
acts and responds to another person in an interaction constitutes the self, demonstrating
the self is socially constructed.
Sociologist, Harold Garfinkel, discovered
that interactions were not defined by external/internal constraining moral
rules, but by undefined/unwritten rules that had been established through
previous interactions at a micro level. This idea derived from Alfred Shutz’s
proposal, which was that people know how to interact in social situations because
of partially formulated ‘recipe knowledge’ and past experiences (Heritage,
1984). There also exists’ codes of conduct (set of social norms), which
prescribe/ describe how participants in the social interaction ought to behave.
Miranda Kerr enters from backstage in the data,
greets the audience and walks over to meet the host, Ellen DeGeneres. She hugs
Ellen and proceeds to kiss her on both cheeks before turning and sitting down
on the chair. It can be assumed that Miranda used her ‘recipe knowledge’ to
correctly greet the female host of the talk show. If it had been two males, the
interviewee would have shaken the interviewer’s hand. She followed a simple
interaction code of conduct, which is ‘upon being greeted, return greeting’
(Whelan, 2012).
According to Goffman,
'deference' and 'demeanor' play an active role in how individuals know they are
having a social interaction and how they respond to that interaction. Deference is the use of rituals and
codes by a subordinate to show respect to their superordinate (Goffman, 1967).
Deference can take the form of compliments, apologies, and even criticisms. Demeanor refers to the appearance of
the self, which is displayed through actions and language use. A person can
convey a different demeanor depending on their context and what role they take
on in these contexts. In
the interview, deference and demeanor work together to support Miranda and
Ellen’s image of self. Both Miranda and Ellen establish the
interaction is an interview through acts of deference when they first meet each
other. For example,
Ellen-
You’re beautiful.
Miranda-
Thankyou.
Ellen-
I love that (pointing to what Miranda is wearing). Is that a dress or a skirt?
Miranda-
(points up and down indicating it is separate)
Ellen-
It’s beautiful. Great. It is good to see you.
Miranda- It is good to see you.
Miranda- It is good to see you.
Ellen
begins the interaction with compliments, the acts of deference not only convey
that the interaction will take the format of an interview, but that Ellen will
be the interviewer since she facilitated the conversation. Both, Miranda and
Ellen’s demeanor also highlights that they are participating in an interview.
Miranda sits upright facing Ellen, with her hands resting on her knees,
indicating she is the interviewee. While, Ellen’s demeanor conveys the opposite.
She sits in a more slouched position and uses her hands to put forward her
thoughts and questions to Miranda, emphasising she is the interviewer.
Interview etiquette refers to codes of
conduct an individual must follow while appearing for interviews. Goffman (1967) uses the term ‘codes of conduct’ to
describe the guides to an individual’s actions. Social order arises when an
individual follows the conduct approved by the group condition. For
interviews, interviewees must be very particular about their appearance and follow
an interview dress code. Miranda dressed casual formal for the interview, wearing
an outfit that promotes she is an accomplished woman. Ellen complimented
Miranda’s outfit, which conveys Miranda has dressed appropriately for the
interview and kept to the dress code.
Ellen- I love that (pointing to what Miranda is
wearing). Is that a dress or a skirt?
Miranda- (points up and down
indicating it is separate)
Ellen- It’s beautiful. Great. It
is good to see you.
Ellen
has also dressed smart for the interview, wearing casual suit attire. Presentation
of self plays an important part in interview interactions.
Interview etiquette also emphasises the
power relationship between the two social actors. Ellen’s position of power is
first evident when she introduces Miranda to the audience and television camera.
The only person who introduces the guests to a show is the host. As the host,
Ellen asks most of the questions and controls the conversation and situation. Miranda
is left to respond to the questions. It conveys the authority that Ellen has in
the studio, and also demonstrates that Miranda is willing to follow the
interviews code of conduct and respect the role that Ellen plays as host.
‘Goffman recognised that when two or more people come together to interact,
they are making a symbolic commitment to one another to respect the role that
each chooses to play’ (Wiemann, J., & Knapp, K.
1975:76).
However, there are some instances in the interaction
when Ellen makes open-ended statements, giving Miranda the opportunity to
expand on her comments and ask questions. This suggests that the interview is
informal, as Ellen is handing over the power to Miranda, and allowing her to
direct some of the interview.
Miranda-
I know. My mum actually hasn’t forgotten about giving birth to my brother and
he was only 8 3. And she said to me, I don't know how you did it!
Ellen- I think I was 9 pounds
something aswell. I was a large large baby.
Miranda- Wow. (Joking) Imagine if you and Orlando (Miranda’s husband) did have babies?
Miranda- Wow. (Joking) Imagine if you and Orlando (Miranda’s husband) did have babies?
Ellen- Yeah. We would have gigantic babies.
While, the turn taking
procedure conveys that Ellen and Miranda know they are interacting, the fact that
whenever Ellen speaks she asks a question and whenever Miranda speaks she
responds with an answer, also conveys that they know the interaction is an
interview. For example,
Ellen-
Will you have another baby do you think? Is it the kind of thing you forget
about the pain and maybe you will have another?
Miranda-
The pain is very much still in my mind…umm however, you know in a couple of
years that might dissipate.
Since, Ellen is a comedian and the
interaction has taken place on a stage, the social interaction can be
classified as a performance. A performance is ‘when an individual plays a part
that implicitly requests his or her observers to take seriously the impression’
(Goffman, 1971:28). Ellen deploys humour on the show to keep the audience entertained.
The audience is only made aware that Ellen is a comedian through her use of
humour. It could be seen as an ‘act,’ where her ‘self’ on stage may be
different to her ‘self’ in other settings. According to Dennis Brisett and Charles
Edgley (2009), the self is perceived as social and dramatic because a person’s
sense of individuality is situationally specific. Different situations occasion
the creation of different selves. It links to dramaturgy and Goffman’s idea
about social life as a drama, where a person’s different selves are akin to
characters in a play. This means that there is a front stage and back stage. The front stage is where
performances are conducted- where you are trying to please people. And the
backstage is where people prepare for the performance, where they are
themselves. An example of Ellen employing humour in
the interaction is when she states,
We should clear something up before we get started.
Miranda-
Okay.
Ellen-
So, ahh your husband was on the show last time, Orlando Bloom.
Miranda- He loved you.
Miranda- He loved you.
Ellen-
I loved him aswell. We obviously love each other. The last time he was here he
said he wanted to have a baby with me.
Miranda-
Ohh I heard.
Ellen-
Let’s just show it and see how you feel about it.
(Flashback
to another episode.)
Ellen-
How do you feel about being rebound from me?
Miranda- Well, I don’t mind. You are a wonderful person and I ‘m a happy second.
Miranda- Well, I don’t mind. You are a wonderful person and I ‘m a happy second.
The humour is embedded in the words, ‘I
loved him aswell. We obviously love each other’. The audience knew from recipe
knowledge that Ellen is gay and is happily married to Portia De Rossi, allowing
them to make sense of the joke and laugh at her humour.
The sociological approach, facework, can
also be drawn on to convey the humour employed in the interview. Facework is all of the little things that people do in
life to develop and maintain their 'selves'. It conveys how cautious
individuals are about keeping their dignity intact when interacting with people
(e.g. to keep 'good face' or 'save face'). In the interaction,
Ellen is calm and
collected when she states that her and Orlando obviously love each other, but
it is Miranda’s reddened face, giggle and quick glance to the ground that gives
away it was a joke. She looked to the ground to ‘save face’, and once she had
composed her self again, focuses back on Ellen. Another instance where
Miranda’s face gives away that Ellen had applied humour to a statement is when
Ellen states,
I think
I was 9 pounds something aswell. I was a large, large baby.
Miranda-
Wow. Imagine if you and Orlando did have babies?
Ellen- Yeah. We would have gigantic babies.
Ellen- Yeah. We would have gigantic babies.
Miranda-
A 12 pounder!
Ellen-
Yeah. Most likely.. it won’t happen.
The
moment Ellen says, ‘yeah. Most likely..it won’t happen,’ causes Miranda to lose
her professionalism, she looks down immediately to hide she is laughing at
Ellen’s joke.
The project will now analyse the
circumstances in which the social actors are interacting. The physical
interview setting is an important part of the talk-show interaction. The documentary
method of interpretation has informed the actors that they are partaking in an
interview. The method ‘consists of treating an actual appearance as “the
document of”, as “pointing to”, “as standing on behalf of” a presupposed
underlying pattern’ (Heritage, 1984:84). All of the furniture in the studio is
laid out, so that its occupants are focused on the interviewer and interviewee.
There are two armchairs on the stage and two coffee mugs on a table, which
creates an interview setting vibe. Ellen’s name is featured around the stage on
screens and all the lighting points towards the stage. If a person were placed
in the talk-show studio, with no knowledge of where they were, those indicators
would have helped determine that they were in a talk show studio based on their
knowledge of talk show settings from previous experiences. The documentary
method of interpretation can also help viewers to interpret Miranda Kerr is a
celebrity on a talk show, from the way the audience screams and applauds when
Miranda steps on stage.
This project analysed an interaction
between two well-known women in society, Miranda Kerr (supermodel) and Ellen
DeGeneres (comedian). The project applied various sociological approaches to the
interaction to discover how the women knew they were participating in an
interview and the circumstances in which they were doing it.
References
Brisett, D and Edgley, C. 2009, Life as Theatre: A
Dramaturgical Sourcebook, Transaction Publishers, New Brunswick, New
Jersey.
Elliot, A. 2008, Concepts of the self (2nd ed.),
Polity Press: Cambridge.
Goffman, E. 1967,
‘The nature of deference & demeanour’, in Interaction Ritual: Essays on
Face-to-Face Behaviour, Doubleday, Garden City, NY, pp.47-95.
Goffman,
E. 1971, ‘Performances’, The Presentation
of Self in Everyday Life, Penguin: Harmondsworth, pp.28-82.
Heritage, J. 1984, ‘The Morality of Cognition’, in Garfinkel
and
Ethnomethodology, Polity Press:
Cambridge, pp. 75-102.
Whelan, A. 2012, The social and moral order in talk, lecture, SOC250, Everyday
Interaction, University of Wollongong, delivered 5 September.
Wiemann, J., & Knapp, K. 1975,
‘Turn-Taking in Conversations’, Journal of Communication, vol.25, no.2, pp.75-92.
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